I was on Outside the Box with Alex Ansary again. This time it was the radio version of the program, on the Oracle Broadcasting Network. This aired on November 7, 2009. We talked about the economy, health care, and the USA as a privately owned corporation. I mentioned that the health care takeover was, in effect, the international banking conglomerate taking possession of the only thing we have left, our bodies, as payment for debt. This will lead to eugenics, euthanasia, and organ harvesting. Alex asked me to be a monthly regular on the show from now on, and also to appear in his upcoming documentary film.